Other Toschoch Families - descendents of non-inheriting sons ------------------------------------------------------------ The following Toschoch families may or may not be related to the main Toschoch line (almost certainly in some cases), however as yet just how they link has yet to be determined. Note that the name, Toschoch, has been spelt in many different ways. In order to reduce confusion, I have use the uniform spelling of Toschoch in most cases. See toshach.txt for references unless noted. ************************************************ Thomas, Toshach, born about 1590/1600, Monzievaird or Monzie, Perthshire, Scotland.[38] {This is my ancestor. The absence of a David amongst the descendants of Thomas before 1684 or an Edward is suggestive that Thomas is not closely related to the 4th (Edward) or 5th (David) lairds of Monzievaird. Indeed, David is one of the most common names amongst the Monzievaird Toschoch's, yet it does not appear amongst the early Angus Toschoch's. Thomas was possibly a grandson of Thomas Toschoch of Pettinzie (married before 1557) or a grandson of John Toschoch of Culcrieff (married before 1543). Given the names of Thomas' children, the latter seems slightly more likely. Culcrieff lies between Monzievaird and Monzie and lies on the opposite bank of the Shaggle Burn from Monzie Castle. An investigation of the Culcrieff and Pettinzie charters may shed some light on the exact relationship.} Children of Thomas Toshach: i. Andrew Tosh, born 1625, Dundee, Angus.[5] Married 1st Marion Ross, 5/5/1650, Dundee, Angus.[5] Married 2nd Margaret Jackson before 1757. Children: Andrew (c.1650) & Margaret (1657) of Dundee, Angus.[5] ii. Thomas Toshoch, born c.1625, Dundee, Angus. Married Christian Jackson, 13/5/1647, Dundee, Angus.[5] Children: Isobel (1648), William (1651), Jonet (1650) & Janet (c.1662) of Dundee, Angus.[5] iii. John Toshach, born c.1625, Dundee, Angus.[5] {my ancestor} iv. Margaret Tosh, born c.1627, Dundee, Angus. Married James Robertson, 26/8/1649, Dundee, Angus.[5] v. Donald Tosh, born c.1630, Dundee, Angus. Married Janet Rotsone, 3/4/1656, Monikie, Angus.[5] Children: Jean (1657), John (1660), Margaret (1665) & Marjory (1666) of Monikie, Angus, Alison (1668) and George (1654-typo?) of Monifieth, Angus.[5] vi. Jonat Tosoch, born c.1630, Dundee, Angus. Married Thomas Frissell, 23/9/1653, Dundee, Angus.[5] Children: Jonet (1656) of Dundee, Angus.[5] vii. Jane Tosoch, born c.1635, Dundee, Angus. Married John Caley, 17/7/1657, Dundee, Angus.[5] viii. Elspeth Toshoch, born c.1640, Dundee, Angus. Married David Crystal, 6/11/1662, Dundee, Angus.[5] For further generations of the Toschoch family in Angus, refer to the Tosh charts. ************************************************ Andrew Toshoch of Monzie, Perth.[5] {These two may be already charted. The date is a "guess" from the IGI. Andrew of Monzievaird had a son, Alexander McAndro, born about 1550. Andrew, 1st laird Toschoch of Monzie, had a son, Andrew, however this Andrew was born before 1520. An error of 50 years is not unlikely with IGI estimates}. child of Andrew Toshoch: i. Andrew Toshoch, born about 1568, Monzie, Perth.[5] ************************************************ {There are obviously individuals missing from the following tree - Toschoch's frequently appear in the baptism and marriage records for Dunfermline during the 1700's and 1800's. Their connection with the following is probable, but undetermined.} 1. Thomas Toscheach, born before 1555, Methven, Perth.[22] Chamberlain of the monastery of Dunfermline, Fife, in 1575.[4,33] "Held office and lands for quite a few years."[39] Will proved 1597/1598.[22] Married Sibble Dalgleich.[5] {Was Thomas from the parish of Methven or from Methven in the parish of Monzie? Having entered the clergy, Thomas would appear to have been a second son and from a well-to-do family since he held lands at Dunfermline. Possibly a son of Thomas Toschoch of Pettinzie (married before 1557) or of John Toschoch of Culcrieff (married before 1543). In 1509, the Laird Toschoch of Monzie held possession of an estate in Methven, which may well have been passed onto his son, John of Culcrieff.} children of Thomas Toscheach and Sibbie Dalgleich: i. John Toscheach, baptised 11/6/1581, Dunfermline, Fife.[5] Possible children: a. Robert Toschoch, born about 1610/1615. Married Grissell Hagie, 1639, Kinglassie, Fife.[5] b. Jean Toschoch, born about 1610. Married Andrew Ritchie, 24/8/1630, Dunfermline, Fife.[5] * ii. James Tosheauch.[5] iii. Isobel Tosche, born c.1599, Dunfermline, Fife.[5] Married James Miller.[5] 2. James Toschoch, born about 1590/1595. Married Janet Burne, 19/8/1617, Dunfermline, Fife.[5] {The location of Abbots Hall is unknown, however there were only four abbey's in Fife, located at Balmerino, opposite the Firth of Tay from Dundee, Incholm, an island, Culross in the far south-east of Fife, and Dunfermline. Of these, only Culross and Dunfermline were known to have had a Toschoch connection and only at Dunfermline were the Toschoch's known to have been connected with the abbey. Analysis of christian names also supports the theory that Abbots Hall was at or near Dunfermline.} children of James Toschoch and Janet Burne: i. John Toschoch, born before 1630. Married Elizabeth Wylie.[5] Children: a. Robert Toschoch, born 1657, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] Married unknown. Child: Robert (1689), Kinfauns, Perthshire.[5] * ii. James Toschoch.[5] 3. James Toschoch, born about 1590/1595. Married Marie Hutchson, 1652, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] children of James Toschoch and Marie Hutchson: i. James Toschoch, born 1655, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] Married Christian Nairn/Horn, about 1680.[5] Children: a. Anna Toschoch, born 1684, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] b. Helen Toschoch, born 1686, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] c. Margaret Toschoch, born 1691, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] d. James Toschoch, born 1693, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] ii. Margaret Toschoch, born 1659, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] Married John Sanders, Dunfermline, Fife.[5] iii. Agnes Toschoch, born about 1665, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] Married Henry Paxton, 1685, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] iv. Janet Toschoch, born abouit 1665, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] Married Patrick Wright, 1686, Abbots Hall, Fife.[5] ************************************************ 1. James Toschoch, born 1580 or earlier. Married Jonet Ffitt of Muckart, Perth, c.1606.[5] {"Muckart", as given in the IGI, is likely to be either 'Pool o Muckhart' and/or 'Yetts of Muckhart', which lie about 1km apart on the Perthshire and Clackmannanshire border, just over the border in Clackmannanshire (less than 1/2 km). Latter entries in the IGI have the spelling 'Muckhart'. County borders have been changed. Patrick, Edward, John, Jeane and Mary are possible children of James and Jonet. The IGI gives Culross as being in Perthsire. There is not a Culross in Perthshire, to my knowledge, however there is one just over the border in present day Fife. Presumably the border has moved. Culross and Muckhart are given below in their present day counties.} children of James Toschoche and Jonet Ffitt: i. Agnes Toschochie, born c.1607, Muckhart, Clackmannanshire.[5] ii. Bessie Toschoche, born c.1610, Muckhart, Clackmannanshire.[5] iii. Edward Toschoch, born about 1610. Married unknown. Children: a. Edward Toschoch, born about 1640. Married Christine Miller, 1666, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] Children: Christine (1667) and Janet (1675) of Culross, Fife.[5] b. Margaret Toschoch, born 1641, Culross, Fife.[5] iv. John Toschoch, born about 1615. Married Nanis Fotringham, 1642, Culross, Fife.[5] Children: a. Jonet Toschoch, born 1643, Culross, Fife.[5] b. John Toschoch, born 1647, Culross, Fife.[5] c. Isobell Toschoch, born 1652, Culross, Fife.[5] d. James Toschoch, born 1658, Culross, Fife.[5] e. Margaret Toschoch, born 1660, Culross, Fife.[5] v. Mary Toschoch. Died 1684, Culross, Fife.[22] Married Henry Law.[22] Henry died 1684, Culross, Fife.[22] * vi. Patrick Toschoch, born about 1625. vii. Jeane Toschoch. Married David Malloche, 28/2/1651, Culross, Fife.[5] 2. Patrick Toschoch, born about 1625. Married Marion Henry, 1651, Culross, Fife.[5] children of Patrick Toschoch and Marion Henry: i. Alexander Toschoch, born 1651, Culross, Fife.[5] Married Agnes Margaret Mitchell (or Miller), 1678, Culross, Fife.[5] Children: a. Agnes Toschoch, born 1679, Culross, Fife.[5] b. John Toschoch, born 1680, Culross, Fife.[5] Married Margaret Glass, 1705, Culross, Fife.[5] c. James Toschoch, born 1682, Culross, Fife.[5] d. Elizabeth Toschoch, born 1687, Culross, Fife.[5] e. Marjory Toschoch. Married David law, 1705, Culross, Fife.[5] ii. John Toschoch, born about 1651. Married Isobell Thompson, 1676, Culross, Fife.[5] Children: a. Alexander Toschoch, born 1677, Culross, Fife.[5] b. John Toschoch, born 1680, Culross, Fife.[5] c. David Toschoch, born about 1680. Married Isobell Dalgliesh, 1705, Culross, Fife.[5] Child: Margaret (1707) of Culross, Fife.[5] ************************************************ 1. unknown Toschoch, born about 1550. {The following list of children are probably siblings. They all appear in Edinburgh around the same time and there are no duplicates (ie: two individuals of the same name). Leith, now part of Edinburgh proper, was originally the port for Edinburgh, located a km or two from the town.} children of unknown Toschoch: i. Jonet Toschoch, born about 1575. Married Henry Robertson, 1596, South Leith, Midlothian.[5] * ii. Charles Toschoch. iii. Kathrin Toschoch, born about 1585. Married John Wilson, 1606, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] iv. David Toschoch, born about 1590. Married Elspeth Martin, 1618, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] Children: a. Margaret Toschoch, born 1618, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] v. Hugh Toschoch, born about 1595. Married Agnes Cowper, 1621, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] Children: a. Jonet/Jeane Toschoch, born 1622, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] Married John Dennie, 1647, South Leith, Midlothian.[5] b. John Toschoch, born c.1625. Married first Elspeth Pow, 1648, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] Married second Elspeth Ewing, 1651, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] Children: Elspeth (1649) of Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] 2. Charles Toschoch, born about 1580. Married Janet Bonkill, c.1605, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] children of Charles Toschoch and Janet Bonkill: i. Marion Toschoch, born 1606, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] ii. son Toschoch, born 1605/1615. Presumed father of following: Children: a. Edward Toschoch, a cordiner,[43] born c.1640. Married Margaret Gibson (daughter of Robert Gibson[43]), 1664, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] Child: Marion (1665) of Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] b. Marjory Toschoch, born c.1645. Married James Grant, 1666, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] c. Catharine Toschoch, born c.1655. Married John MacKenzie, 1676, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] iii. Agnes Toschoch, born 1614, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] iv. Bessie Toschoch, born 1620, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] v. Catherine Toschoch, born 1622, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] vi. Elspeth Toschoch, born 1623, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] {There was also an Edward Toschoch, married Elizabeth Gillies, 1683, Edinburgh, children: Edward (1690), Edward (1695) and Alexander (1690) who may be part of the above family group. Note however that there were at least two stray family groups in Edinburgh during the late 1600's, so this Edward may not be part of the above family group.} ************************************************ {With the exception of an occasional stray appearing in isolation, the following branch were the only Toschoch's anywhere in Scotland prior to 1700 outside of the area surrounding Monzie and Monzievaird (ie: Perthshire, Angus, Fife and Edinburgh. 1. John Towche/Tosche.[51] Born before 1565. Married Christian Setton.[51] children of John Tosche and Christian Setton: i. Jonat Tosh,[51] born about 1585. Married 1st William Nicoll, 10/6/1604, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married 2nd William Gordonne, 29/10/1611, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Children: a. child Nicoll, born 1605, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] b. William Nicoll, born 15/11/1607, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] c. Barbara Gordonne, born 1617, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] * ii. James Toschoch, born c.1586, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] {1.1} iii. Alexander Toschoch, born c.1588.[51] Was admitted into the burgess of Aberdeen in 1606.[50] Married Marjorie M.[5] Maissone,[51] 5/1607, St. Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5] {[51] gives first name as Margaret} Marjorie/Margaret, born 1581 Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, was the daughter of Alexander Maisson and Elspat Mayn.[51] Children: a. child Tosh, baptised 22/9/1608, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] a. William Tosh, baptised 7/11/1609, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] a. Elspet Tosh, born 1612, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] iv. Isobell Toschoch, born about 1600. Married George Jameson, 1624, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5] 1.1. James Toschoch (s/o John Towche/Tosche), c.1586, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married Agnes/Annas Gordon,[5,51] 25/11/1617, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] children of James Toschoch and Agnes Gordon: i. William Toschoch, born 1619, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] * ii. James Toschoch,[5] born 1619, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] {1.1.1} iii. Jonet Toschoch, born 1623, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] iv. Elspet Toschoch, born 1629, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] v. Isobell Toschoch, born 1632, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] vi. George Toschoch, born 1634, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] * vii. Alexander Toschoch, born 1636, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] {1.1.2} viii. John Toschoch.[5,51] Married unknown. Children: a. Arthur Toschoch, born 1669, Strathdon, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] * ix. Andrew Tosh, born Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] {1.1.3} x. Arthur Toschoch, born about 1640. Married Margaret, 1666, Loochel-Cushnie, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] xi. Anna Toschoch.[51] Married James Guthrie, 2/2/1666-1667, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] 1.1.1. James Toschoch (s/o James, s/o John Towche/Tosche),[5] born 1621, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married Elspeth Duncan, 13/6/1664, Old Machar, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] children of James Toschoch and Elspeth Duncan: i. William Toschoch, born 1664, Old Machar, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] ii. Alexander Toschoch, born 1667, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] iii. Marjorie Toschoch, born 1667, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] iv. John Toschoch, born 1668, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] v. George Toschoch, baptised 5/2/1670-1671, St Nicholas, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] vi. Elspet Toschoch, born Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] vii. William Toschoch, born 1673, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] Married Anna Brown.[51] Children: a. John Toschoch, born 1708, Old Machar, Aberdeenshire.[51] viii. Isobel Toschoch, born 1675, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] ix. James Toschoch, born 1679/1680, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] 1.1.2. Alexander Toschoch or Toash (s/o James, s/o John Towche/Tosche), born 1636, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] Alexander was a merchant based in Aberdeen with arms (1672): Shield: Or a lymphad her oars erected and crossing each other in saltire between two billets Sable, in the dexter canton a dexter arm issuing in bend grasping a man's heart Proper. Motto: 'Crede et Vince' (lit. "faith/trust and courage").[49] Neither the arms or motto are in any way similar to that of the McIntosh's or the Toshach's of Monzievaird, indicating Alexander's family is almost certainly unrelated to either.[49] Married 1st Marjorie Burnett, 17/9/1661, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married 2nd Isobell Bissett,[5] 9/6/1668, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Isobell, born 1648, was the daughter of James Bisset and Margaret Jameson.[51] children of Alexander Toschoch and Marjorie Burnett: i. Elspet Toschoch,[5] born 1662, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married James Mill, 14/4/1683, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Children: a. Elspet Mill, born 1684.[51] children of Alexander Toschoch and Isobell Bissett: ii. James Toschoch, born 1672, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] iii. George Toschoch, born 1674, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] iv. Alexander Toschoch, born 1674, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] Married Margaret Gordon, c.1700.[5] Child: Margaret (1700) of Tarland, Aberdeenshire.[5] v. John Toschoch, born 1678, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] vi. Andrew Toschoch, born 1681, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[5,51] vii. Isobel Toschoch, born 1863, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] ix. Agnes Toschoch, born 1687, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] x. Marjorie Toschoch, born 1687, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] 1.1.3. Andrew Toschoch (s/o James, s/o John Towche/Tosche),[5,51] born before 1650. Chamberlain to Lord Melville.[51] Married unknown. children of Andrew Toschoch: * i. James Toschoch, born 1669, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] {1.1.3.1} 1.1.3.1. James Toschoch (s/o Andrew, s/o James, s/o John Towche/Tosche), born 1669, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married Isabel Margaret Smith, 14/1/1705-1706, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Isabel was the daughter of John Smith.[51] children of James Tosh and Isabel Smith: * i. John Tosh, born 1706, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] {1.1.3.1.1} ii. Margaret Tosh, born 1708, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] iii. James Tosh, born 1/1710-1711, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] iv. William Tosh, born 10/1718, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] * v. Thomas Tosh, born 13/9/1713, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] {1.1.3.1.2} 1.1.3.1.1. John Tosh (s/o James, s/o Andrew, s/o James, s/o John Towche/Tosche), born 1706, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married Janet Stewart.[51] children of John Tosh and Janet Stewart: i. Isobel Tosh, born 1/1730-1731, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] ii. James Tosh, born 1733, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married Helen Davidson. Children: a. Margaret Tosh, baptised 1/6/1781, Old Machar, Aderdeenshire.[51] Married John Petrie, 14/5/1807, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] b. Elizabeth Tosh, baptised 9/12/1786, Old Machar, Aderdeenshire.[51] Married Alan Kennady, 12/7/1810, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] iii. John Tosh, born 1737, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married unknown. Children: a. Isabella Tosh.[51] Married George Bruce, 16/7/1814, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] iv. Margaret Tosh, born 1741, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] 1.1.3.1.2. Thomas Tosh (s/o James, s/o Andrew, s/o James, s/o John Towche/Tosche), born 13/9/1713 and baptised 27/9/1713, St. Nicholas, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Thomas was a mariner.[51] Married Margaret Malcolm, 1739, St. Nicholas, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] children of Thomas Tosh and Margaret Malcolm: * i. Alexander Tosh, born 5/1740, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] {1.1.3.1.2.1} ii. William Tosh, born 11/1742, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Wigmaker.[51] iii. Isobella Tosh, born 11/1742, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] 1.1.3.1.2.1. Alexander Tosh (s/o Thomas, s/o James, s/o Andrew, s/o James, s/o John Towche/Tosche), born 5/1740, baptised 22/5/1740, St. Paul's Episcopal Chapel, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] Alexander was a schoolmaster.[51] Married 1st Rebecca Cruden, 7/7/1776, Old Deer, Aberdeen, Abderdeenshire.[51] Rebecca was the d/o William Cruden and was born 1756, Lonmay, Aberdeenshire.[51] Married 2nd Janet Morison, 8/7/1791, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] children of Alexander Tosh and Rebecca Cruden: i. James Tosh, born 1777, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] ii. Mary Tosh, born 8/4/1779, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] * iii. Alexander Tosh, born 1783, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] * iv. Thomas Tosh, born 19/5/1785, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] v. Frances Tosh, born 8/1787, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] children of Alexander Tosh and Janet Morison: vi. Teresia Tosh, born 1796, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] vii. Alexander Tosh, born 1797, Aderdeen, Aberdeenshire.[51] ************************************************ 1. William Toschoch. Born before 1580. Died 1614, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[22] {Auchtermuchty is in the north-west of Fife, not far from Perth.} child of William Toschoch: * i. unknown Toschoch. 2. Unknown Toschoch, born around 1590/1600. children of unknown Toschoch (presumed siblings): i. James Toschoch, born 1620/1625. Burgess, Auchtermuchty, Fife, 1667.[4] Married bessie Arnott, 1650, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] Children: a. Margaret Toschoch, born 1650, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] b. James Toschoch, born 1652, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] ii. John Toschoch, born 1620/1625. Married Geils Awerie, 1649, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] Children: a. Margaret Toschoch, born 1650, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] iii. William Toschoch, born 1615/1630. Married Isobell Aytkins.[5] Children: a. Cirstane Toschoch, born c.1645. Married George Beatone, 1664, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] b. Jeane Toschoch, born c.1645. Married William Fairfull, 1664, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] c. Margaret Toschoch, born 1655, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] iv. Catherine Toschoch, born c.1635. Married John Ferney, 1655, Auchtermuchty, Fife.[5] ************************************************ 1. Unknown Toschoch, born before 1580. children of unknown Toschoch: * i. Patrick Toschoch, born before 1608. ii. James Toschoch, born before 1608. Married unknown. Children: a. James Toschoch, born 1631, Perth, Perthshire.[5] iii. Thomas Toschoch, born before 1610. Married unknown. Children: a. Janet Toschoch, born 1634, Perth, Perthshire.[5] b. George Toschoch, born 1637, Perth, Perthshire.[5] c. John Toschoch, born 1634, Perth, Perthshire.[5] Married Janet Dalzeall.[5] Child: Janet (1673) of Perth, Perthsire.[5] iv. John Toschoch, born before 1615. Married Agnes Mathie. Children: a. David Toschoch, born 1639, Perth, Perthshire.[5] b. David Toschoch, born 1641, Perth, Perthshire.[5] c. Andrew Toschoch, born c.1650. Married Margaret Smith.[5] Children: John (1678), Andrew (1679), Alexander (1682) & David (1687) of Perth, Perth.[5] 2. Patrick Toschoch, born before 1608. Married unknown. children of Patrick Toschoch: i. John Toschoch, born 1630, Perth, Perthshire.[5] Married Janet Bowie.[5] Children: a. Andrew Toschoch, born 1664, Perth, Perthshire.[5] Married Helen Dowe, 1691, Perth, Perthshire.[5] Child: James (1693) of Perth, Perthshire.[5] b. Jeane Toschoch, born 1665, Perth, Perthshire.[5] Married John Duff, 1684, Perth, Perthshire.[5] c. Agnes Toschoch, born c.1670. Married William Rutherford, 1691, Aberdalgie, Perthshire.[5] d. Girsell Toschoch, born c.1670/1675. Married James Alexander, 1694, Perth, Perthshire.[5] ii. Margaret Toschoch, born c.1640. Married Henry Garrock, 1659, Perth, Perthshire.[5] * iii. Andrew Toschoch, born c.1640. 3. Andrew Toschoch, born about 1640. Married Christine Clark, 1663, Perth, Perthshire.[5] children of Andrew Toschoch and Christine Clerk: i. Patrick Toschoch, born 1664, Perth, Perthshire.[5] ii. Andrew Toschoch, born 1666, Perth, Perthshire.[5] Married Elspeth Coventry.[5] Children: a. Robert Toschoch, born 1693, Perth, Perthshire.[5] b. Christine Toschoch, born 1695, Perth, Perthshire.[5] c. Helen Toschoch, born 1696, Perth, Perthshire.[5] d. Elspeth Toschoch, born 1699, Perth, Perthshire.[5] e. David Toschoch, born 1701, Perth, Perthshire.[5] f. John Toschoch, born 1703, Perth, Perthshire.[5] iii. William Toschoch, born 1667, Perth, Perthshire.[5] iv. Christine Toschoch, born 1669, Perth, Perthshire.[5] v. Janet Toschoch, born 1671, Perth, Perthshire.[5] vi. Margaret Toschoch, born 1673, Perth, Perthshire.[5] vii. Thomas Toschoch, born 1677, Perth, Perthshire.[5] viii. Beatrix Toschoch, born 1678, Perth, Perthshire.[5] ix. Hugh Toschoch, born 1681, Perth, Perthshire.[5] ************************************************ 1. John Taish (Toschoch), born about 1610/1615. Married Isobel, c.1637.[5] {Muthill is south of Monzievaird and to the west of Perth.} children of John and Isobel Toschoch: i. David Toschoch, born c.1650. Married 1st Katherine McClish, 1676, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] Married 2nd Jonet Anderson, 1678, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] Child: Finlay (1699) of Muthill, Perthshire.[5] ii. Margaret Toschoch, born c.1655. Married Andrew Mathie, 1677, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] iii. Jean Toschoch, born c.1655. Married John Drummond, 1676, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] iv. Janet Toschoch, born c.1655. Married James Harrower, 1678, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] v. Isobel Toschoch, born c.1660. Married Andrew Richart, 1684, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] vi. Agnes Toschoch, born c.1660. Married James Richart, 1680, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] vii. Patrick Toschoch, born 1660/1665. Married Elizabeth Forbes, 1688, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] viii. James Toschoch, born 1660/1665. Married Janet Gold, 1688, Muthill, Perthshire.[5] ************************************************ 1. Unknown Toschoch. {Kenmore is roughly half-way between Glentilt and Monzievaird. Dull is nearby.} children of unknown Toschoch: i. James Toschoch, born before 1615. Married unknown. Child: Christine (1640) of Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] ii. Duncan Toschoch, born c.1615. Married Catherine Louthian, 1640, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] iii. Andrew Toschoch, born c.1615. Married Catrien Campbell, 1641, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] iv. Isabell Toschoch, born 1630/1635. Married Patrick Fenton, 1654, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] 2. Unknown Toschoch, born around 1640. {may be son of Duncan, James or Andrew, above} children of unknown Toschoch: i. Finlay Toschoch. ii. Donald Toschoch, born c.1680. Married Margaret Aiken, 1707, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] 3. Finlay Toschoch, born 1670/1675. Married Katrin McGregor, 1697, Kenmore, Perth.[5] children of Finlay Toschoch and Katrin McGregor: i. Duncan Toschoch, born c.1700. Married Jean Ballantain.[5] Children: a. John Toschoch, born 1722, Dull, Perthshire.[5] b. James Toschoch, born 1727, Dull, Perthshire.[5] c. Katrin Toschoch, born 1730, Dull, Perthshire.[5] d. William Toschoch, born 1732, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] e. Grizel Toschoch, born 1738, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] f. Robert Toschoch, born 1740, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] ************************************************ 1. Duncan Toschoch, born about 1650, Monzievaird, Perthshire.[43] Servant to the Earl of Atholl, 1675; partner to Duncan MacKintosh, 1684, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[43] Married Jean Elizabeth Grey, 1683, Edinburgh, Midlothian.[5] {I would have considered Duncan to be a brother of Finlay and Donald of Kenmore except that [43] describes him as being from Monzievaird.} children of Duncan Toschoch and Elizabeth Grey: i. Barbara Toschoch, born 1697, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] ii. Duncan Toschoch, born c.1700, Kenmore, Perthshire.[5] Married Helen McKenzie, 1726, Dull, Perthshire.[5] Children: a. Duncan Toschoch, born 1727, Dull, Perthshire.[5] b. Elspeth Toschoch, born 1729, Dull, Perthshire.[5] iii. Isobell Toschoch, born 1707, Crieff, Perthshire.[5] Married Donald McGreggor of Dull.[5] ************************************************ 1. Unknown Toschoch. {the following are likely siblings, given locations and dates. Madderty is between Monzie and Perth, about 1/3rd the distance out from Monzie. Evidently a branch of the family "recolonised" Monzie and Monzievaird after the last Laird Toschoch departed to America.} children of unknown Toschoch: i. Andrew Toschoch, born c.1690. Married 1st Jean Guild, 1715, Madderty, Perthshire.[5] Married 2nd Katherine Glass, 1722, Madderty, Perthshire.[5] ii. David Toschoch, born c.1695. Married Jean Low/Dou/Lou, 1721 Madderty, Perthshire.[5] Children: a. Agnes Toschoch, born 1722, Madderty, Perthshire.[5] a. Janet Toschoch, born 1725, Madderty, Perthshire.[5] a. Lilias Toschoch, born 1729, Monzie, Perthshire.[5] a. David Toschoch, born 1733, Monzie, Perthshire.[5] iii. Mary Toschoch, born c.1700. Married Duncan McGregor, 1717, Monzievaird, Perthshire.[5] iv. Margaret Toschoch, born c.1710. Married James Sim, 1733, Monzieviard, Perthshire.[5] v. Ann Toschoch, born c.1710. Married James Low, 1733, Monzievaird, Perthshire.[5] vi. Charlotte Toschoch, born c.1715. Married Charles Millar, 1735, Monzievaird, Perthshire.[5] ************************************************ Toschoch's of Logierait, Perthshire. {Logierait lies about midway between Perth and Glentilt}. Between 1670 and 1700 a sizable number of Toschoch's appear in the Logierait records. Included in number are 5 John's, 5 Donald's, 3 William's, a Patrick, Andrew and Alexander. All are contemporaries and there is only one adult male of the previous generation in the records I have. The number of contemporary John's and Donald's indicates that the family has almost certainly been living in Logierait for at least 4 generations, if not longer (ie: back to the mid 1500's). Given the existing records, it is not even possible to speculate on possible siblings, tho' without doubt there would be at least three sets of brothers including a Donald, William and John. ************************************************ Sundry pre-1700 Toschoch mentions elsewhere in Scotland. Andrew Toschoch[22] married Isobel Drysdale, 1620, Clackmannan, Clackmannanshire.[5] Isobel died 1623, Solsgirth, Fossoway.[22] William Toschoch married Margaret Edward, 1621, Clackmannan, Clackmannanshire.[5] {William is likely a brother to Andrew} John Toschoch, born 1637, Fetteresso, Kincardine, son of George.[5] George Toschoch, born 1644, Inverness, Inverness, son of John.[5] Margaret Toschoch, born 1691, Inverness, Inverness, daughter of Donald Toschoch and Marjorie Fraser.[5] John Toschoch, born c.1675. Married Agnes Liddell, c.1701, Stirling, Stirling.[5] Children: Janet (1702) and David (c.1705) of Stirling, Stirlingshire.[5] Robert, born about 1670/1675. Married unknown, but possibly Margaret. Children: Margaret (1699), John (c.1705), Robert (c.1708) and William (c.1715) of Fossoway & Tulliebole, Kinross & Perthshire.[5] Christian Toschoch, died 1677, Machany.[22] Margaret Toschoch, died 1653, Cluny, Crieff, Perthshire, married David Hutson.[22] Patrick Toschoch, died before 1980, married Margaret McNab, Margaret died 1680, Comrie, Perthshire.[22] James Toschoch, died 1614, Balgown, Methven, Perthshire.[22] Janet Dou, widow of Toschoch, died Monzievaird, 1702.[44] Daughter of Donald Toschoch and Margaret Allen, died 1722, Monzievaird.[22] ************************************************